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 C++ Where to begin? - 5/18/2008 4:17:55 PM   
  TKS


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Hi,

Just the other day, I downloaded a couple C++ compilers, and played around, but I could see this stuff is way beyond other programming languages: HTML, VBS & JavaScript.

Anyway, I'm really new to C++. So I need some advice on where to start... like... where I could learn about the beginnings of the language? How it works... how compiling works, etc. Know of any good sites... and please... nothing to do with paying money in any way. I'm not looking to buy any books / special registrations. I'm just looking for a straight forward free B site. Free access. Know of any? Tutorials? Guides... I mean, that's how I learnt HTML and many other languages.

Thanks in advance.

-TKS
 
 
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 RE: C++ Where to begin? - 5/19/2008 2:06:30 AM   
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Some corrections:

HTML isn't a programming language, its a description language. it doesn't DO anything really

Visual Basic languages (VBS, VBA, VB.NET, VB6, etc) were meant to be easy to learn. (BASIC = "Beginner's All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code")

Saying that C++ is beyond VBScript or JavaScript is completely wrong. For example. In JavaScript if I do this:


      

In C++ I would have to do this:

      

Programming is not only about creating things, but its also about Managing Complexity. There are literally hundreds of programming languages out there, and all were designed with a different goal and focus in mind. C++ if I remember correctly was designed in Bell Labs to help manage alot of different Unix machines without having to write the same code over and over.

VBScript on the other hand was designed to help System Administrators (usually) manage large networks of computers instead of Batch Files.

JavaScript has a much more troubled and detailed history (which I can go over if you wish). But to say it simply, Brendan Eich wanted to Implement a Scheme/Self type of language in a browser (Netscape at the time). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javascript

As for learning C++, I learned it about 7 years ago from here: http://www.cplusplus.com/ there are probably better tutorials out there these days but it worked for me. The primary use for C++ these days is in .NET I believe.

(In all honesty I wouldn't suggest C++ as a beginner language to learn since the learning curve can be pretty steep)

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 RE: C++ Where to begin? - 5/19/2008 3:05:04 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TNO

Some corrections:

HTML isn't a programming language, its a description language. it doesn't DO anything really

Visual Basic languages (VBS, VBA, VB.NET, VB6, etc) were meant to be easy to learn. (BASIC = "Beginner's All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code")

Saying that C++ is beyond VBScript or JavaScript is completely wrong. For example. In JavaScript if I do this:


      

In C++ I would have to do this:

      

Programming is not only about creating things, but its also about Managing Complexity. There are literally hundreds of programming languages out there, and all were designed with a different goal and focus in mind. C++ if I remember correctly was designed in Bell Labs to help manage alot of different Unix machines without having to write the same code over and over.

VBScript on the other hand was designed to help System Administrators (usually) manage large networks of computers instead of Batch Files.

JavaScript has a much more troubled and detailed history (which I can go over if you wish). But to say it simply, Brendan Eich wanted to Implement a Scheme/Self type of language in a browser (Netscape at the time). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javascript

As for learning C++, I learned it about 7 years ago from here: http://www.cplusplus.com/ there are probably better tutorials out there these days but it worked for me. The primary use for C++ these days is in .NET I believe.

(In all honesty I wouldn't suggest C++ as a beginner language to learn since the learning curve can be pretty steep)


Hi TNO,

Thanks for all the clarification. Yes please go over some JavaScript history with me... very interested.

Thanks for the c++ site, am on it right now, and yeah I heard it can get pretty steep, but I'm still gonna give it a tackle. But theres no reason why I can't study another more BASIC complimentary language at the same time.. any suggestions?

Again, thanks.

-TKS

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 RE: C++ Where to begin? - 5/19/2008 12:35:35 PM   
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VBScript is a decent language to learn since its easy to figure out (no strange symbols), and you can ask questions in this forum to guide you along. Almost everything I learned about VBScript was from this forum. You can plug it into an HTA or just in a VBS file to see what results you can cook up. Play with things and ask questions. Search for random things on the forum and take a look at the frequently asked questions for some ideas where to start.

Here's some history on JavaScript, I expect alot of this to go over your head right now, but at least its something, and I don't want to spend 2 hours writing a streamlined history at this moment:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javascript

http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roadmap/archives/2008/04/popularity.html#more

http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/About_JavaScript

If you have any specific questions on details I'd be happy to oblige

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